>> If you go that route, buy the extra grip? With a handful of safe ingredients and chemicals, you can try it out for yourself at home using a 35mm film camera. Sorry, but there is nothing exaggerated in plain facts. Monogram's Creative Console allows you to build out a customized set of physical controls to speed up your editing workflow. That is not its strength. If you favor the camping style of street photography (wait somewhere for someone to walk into your scene), this may be an acceptable camera, but for those of us who shoot one-handed and constantly on the move, it's just not going to cut it. Storage space can be solved by losslessly compressing the Raws, that actually makes the 42MP files smaller than uncompressed Raws from a 24MP sensor. Con you shoot sports with this camera? You'll save a lot of money, by the way. Agreed. You would think they would comment on the "poor optics".So, even though the camera has "poor optics" (according to you) they still say this. The RX1R II's sensor, being shared with the Sony a7R II, is a known quantity. Then there's the IQ threshold beyond which improvements in IQ are less relevant to most people because the photo has to be magnified more and more to see the difference. There are two further issues no one has thus mentioned (I may be wrong as there are almost 600 comments). I'm sure there are many serious street photographers that don't have any problems on adjusting their style a little to take advange of the IQ of cameras like: Rx1rII, Leica Q, A7rII, DSLR's... or even a 100mp MF.Just google "Ming Thein". The organizers have pushed back the Las Vegas event amidst concerns surrounding the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic. I just bought a FF camera with a 42mp sensor and see that the IQ is so good that I no longer feel FF is overkill. In addition I can't help but feel an extra movable lens must have some negative effect on image quality. I mean, I dont know if it is the setup or bad RX1-R & RX1-RII units, or what.. but from corner to corner, both their test scenes are a complete, tragic & miserable blur & lack of sharpness, all across the image area! But for others, they are deal breakers. I had a spare of course, but even so I'm used to way more from my DSLR and ILC cameras. From everything I've read, the X100F dramatically improved AF performance over its predecessors. The RX1R II seems to have a very similar JPEG engine to the one in the a7R II, and this is a good thing. Can you shoot macro? OK, so they have the best quality image sensors. It seems like you have very little capacity to understand that there are others who may have different objectives and requirements from you. Not because of its lack of sharpness wide open, but because of its imprecise focus-by-wire design. I think this is the perfect companion to its big sister ! Did you try turning the sharpening up? The problem with the RX1r II is that it is focus by wire and there are no focal length markings, making zone focussing near impossible. But there’s still only one 'world’s smallest full-frame digital camera.' On the other hand, the old Teac decks almost always work fine, possibly needing a belt or two. What's more, start-up times from a battery swap or a long period of inactivity are lengthy. Which in my opinion is a stupid thing to complain about because you new the size of the battery before you bought it. I just bought a FF camera with a 42mp sensor and see that the IQ is so good that I no longer feel FF is overkill. Probably not gonna happen though, is it? Here are a few of the 380 nominated images from photographers, of all nationalities, based in the United Kingdom. Studio comparison clearly shows softness across the field for RX1R II. (And why should you care? Find out what's new and what isn't in this video overview. If you're trekking, you could also stabilize it using a bean bag or shot bag that you fill with river sand at your destination. At f/8 and 1/500s should be even easier. Slips into coat pocket. Again, no question the Sony delivers fantastic image quality. I reckon not. Say, Panny LX100? Sony's new RX1R II marks the very high end of pocketable cameras. However, as the year drew to a close Sony surprised us with the Cyber-shot DSC-RX1R II – a replacement for the RX1R. There's even a demo of AF-C tracking a dog outdoors in daylight. Personally, I've stayed away from most tiny things, but just the other day, I sent my vintage Sony Walkman(CD player) from the 1980's to the thrift store. With DNG they can get as small as 40% of the uncompressed original (for the lower iso images). Anyway, this test scene has positively no resemblance of the true IQ coming out of this camera. And still Sony does not seem to get it right.We now have:1) A7R II that had problem with good lenses. What is with the $600 price jump?? Thank you for propping argument that RX1R II has poor optical quality lens. ?For me, the higher resolution doesn't bring any benefit (16mp is still more than enough for me - 24 is about the most I'd want). But the fun isn't over yet - now is your chance to vote on the winners and runners-up from each of the four categories, to determine the readers' choice award for best overall product of 2015 - click through to vote, Recently, the streets of Seattle were filled with revelers dressed as Santa Claus drunk on (at the very least) plenty of holiday cheer. These includes poor battery life, sluggish performance in some situations, Sony's typical menu system mishaps, and more. I haven't heard that dust on the sensors of fixed lens cameras is a major issue. Since you like to quote DXO so much I will leave you with this. 1. "we use the a7R II as opposed to the RX1R II to demonstrate this because the RX1R II's subpar lens quality wouldn't yield a fair comparison in this off-centre section of our scene". I wonder if DPR could possibly clarify. Cold weather photography (bring a spare battery), action or video shooting. I think I got it.But it's important to clarify that it's not the ideal street camera for the way YOU shoot. Every review of a Sony camera describes it as a maddening mix of superb sensor technology and optics paired with infuriatingly poor controls and menus. It was $3200 a few months ago. ..Continued.DXO has not tested RX1R II lens yet but it has tested RX1R lens:http://www.dxomark.com/best-lenses-for-sony-cyber-shot-dsc-rx1r-(894). Oh wait, you don't own one so you should not be sharing your opinion on it. Yes but even with that grip Sony A7R II is not as comfortable as Nikon's or Canon's with larger lenses and without a vertical grip.I wish Sony matched camera and optics better. The year 2020 might have offered us fewer chances to get out and photograph the things we love, but that didn't stop manufacturers from bringing a ton of excellent new lenses to market. In C-AF, it seems as though the camera bypasses CDAF, utilizing only PDAF (therefore, only distance information and scene analysis) to jump almost instantaneously to the point of focus, without hunting past it for CDAF confirmation as S-AF tends to. If you look at raw in the studio comparison you will see that EVEN THE VERY CENTER is not as sharp on RX1R II as on A7R II. I will like to see in some comparisons a portrait for skin tones, a close-up/macro for details, a high contrast scene for shadows, a low light for noise... And maybe to put there Sony 7RII, Canon 5DSR and Nikon D810 to see what you miss if you have a compact FF camera. If I look at the dog in full resolution it looks like a bad ISO400 film back in the nineties. If I had to base my image quality decisions based on whichever camera manufacturer had the best JPEGs, I would be a very sad person. Show me all the complaints on the web about the "poor optics"? Battery life certainly is not great, but, the dimensions of the camera are so right, who cares: especially as the replacements are not expensive (I carry 5 on me for all possibilities covered for). My chief complaint about Canon is not with their sensors but with their design decisions for non-DSLR camera models. Not a point and shoot. But I suspect that setting this camera up for zone focusing will be difficult due to its poor ergonomics and menus. Vote now for your favorites. I liked the results: https://500px.com/photo/181230029/looking-up-by-ivo-de-man-?ctx_page=2&from=user&user_id=16043137, But no doubts about it, the X100F is also a jewel, and the photographer's skill will always be much more important than the camera used :). Better option for who and for what? The daguerreotype was the first commercially viable photographic process when it was introduced to the world in 1839. Despite mine being outside the affected serial number range. Sunset was officially pretty close and guess what? That said, when doing street photography it’s probably best to rely more on zone focusing, using a fixed manual focus and aperture setting to guarantee everything from a few feet to infinity will appear in focus. Maybe I am a little defensive, but the lack of clarity in your A7Rii shot seems quite inconsistent with the incredible clarity I get, daily, with mine, hand held, though admittedly I don't have side by side compare shots. Maybe I am a little defensive, but the lack of clarity in your A7Rii shot seems quite inconsistent with the incredible clarity I get, daily, with mine, hand held, though admittedly I don't have side by side compare shots. Despite mine being outside the affected serial number range. For example I find the IQ of cell phones unacceptable but my RX100 is acceptable. So now I use the RX1R ii for max quality, and a Nikon 1 V3 for any zoomy stuff I do! The sample-collecting probe filmed the Moon from close up and then captured its own landing, but the best bit is the color stitched panorama that's 15,000 pixels wide. (apparently many people here only understand things if we explain in the most literal way).I'm not even that experienced and I can still shoot many kinds of photographs with DSLR, mirrorless, compacts, phones, film, pinhole..But now it's clear that you're unable to adapt your style. Man.. and in 1st image there are some chromatic aberrations around the window frames.this is normal for a camera like that? But a smartphone does, just like your $1000 (!) this is the Eleonor Rigby-camera: "Who is it fo-or...", They might as well have made it perfect.Why is Sony so bad with user interfaces, whether a phone, a camera or a TV?Are they targeting engineers with their products? Ex-Microsoft CEO killing all lines of product and selling out to Microsoft with shaky and unproven mobile OS had nothing to do with Nokia downfall, nothing at all. There is nothing wrong with his camera. It's not about being inflexible.It's about choosing the right tool for the job.If you took a pole today of cameras used by serious, published, street photographers, I don't think you'll find the RX1r II very high on the list. This came right from your boys on the RX1Rii. Use the remote shutter release and the result will be some very serious, high-resolution photos. That lens was only resolving 20 megapixels which is within my guessed range of 15-20 megapixel optical resolution. That's the magic of a free market. the issue is you can't clean it yourself, you need to bring it to the service center, which they will charge you with a ridicolous amount of money just to clean it. If you need a tripod, what's the point? You have come to the conclusion that all RX!R ii cameras have bad optics even though you don't even own the camera yourself! Isn't smartphone image quality 90% as good as an RX100's by the same token? Camera is forcibly reduced in size to appear small, as it is the only competitive 'advantage' it can muster. I own an RX1R ii and A7R ii and I can tell you that, wide open at f/2 (where the RX1R ii is optimised and matched to sensor to operate at), far outperforms the A7R ii centre to corner, and it is not until around f/5.6 that the A7R ii catches up. The factory produces an array of audio components, including analog-to-digital converters, which Inside Imaging claims are used by various Japanese camera manufacturers. Processors double in power every two years, but i bet you could use an upgrade right now. If you're already carrying a sturdy tripod, you obviously don't care that much about your kit size, as it will weigh more and be bulkier than nearly any camera you can bring with you. But yes, if you do have to delve in - it's a long road to travel. Some nice comparisons may be between the top cameras from every range. Never even thought that would be a problem after reading about how fast the focusing is. It will be nice to see a comparison between RX1R and RX1R2, side by side, in real world, with some crops, to see the difference. I've sold all of my Canon cameras and accessories and am currently saving up for a Leica Q. It should have been 20 megapixels sensor with the same sensor technology as in A7R II. At $3,300, it’s easily one of the most (if not the most) expensive compact cameras you can buy. No. I wonder with all the financials issues that Sony has from closing online and stores what is the impact on quality and future support. Laowa 15mm F4.5 Shift Lens Review: What is a shift lens, and when is it useful? What issues and improvements did it address. The Bottom Line The Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 II's combination of looks, speed, flexibility, and photo quality makes it a great choice for enthusiasts who can … Of course that doesn't address the limitations of a $3300 fixed lens camera compared to the A7Rii. What's more, the dynamic range allowed me to pull plenty of detail out of the foreground shadows. :-). It is actually a marvel in miniaturisation, and that cannot be overstated enough. Thanks for your reply.But have you seen "the best quality" from this camera, or only "seen" through what the producer said?Have you seen the MTF table of this lens on this camera?And the "best quality" is very different from each one... relates to the their usage... Sony RX1R II is not a FF point & shoot camera. Historically, fixed lens cameras (be they folders, rangefinders, or SLRs) have always been less expensive, not more. In this article, Jordan reviews the winners and provides more detail on why they were selected. Download some Raws and see what you can do with them. Like 7RII vs RX1RII vs RX100IV. Read more. That said, in real world situations, it's actually very good. We've combed through the options and selected our two favorite cameras in this class. A lot of times you will want either a wide angle or a telephoto. Thank you for propping argument that RX1R II has poor optical quality lens. Works fine for me. The one downside of this lens is that it is a unit-driven design. A lot of it depends on the processing. Should you need it, though, when enabled, the OLPF does an excellent job of keeping moiré to a minimum. We've updated our 'best cameras for travel' buying guide for those looking for a camera to bring on their next adventure, once it's safe to do so. No stress at all! You unfortunately got a bad version which I would immediately send back to who ever you purchased it through. Primitivelamps,I am sorry for your experiences that unfortunately mean that you were unlucky to not experience anything better if you claim bad version and perfect camera.If it is just bad version then every reviewer has got a bad one including dpreview as can be seen from studio comparison tool. This, the lack of 4k video, the loss of the image stabilisation from the a7R11, these then are three hurdles to parting with such a lot of cash as I see it. The camera allows me to change aperture, speed, iso, has a good AF, a good VF, a good tilting screen. It's a niche (and pricey) product to be sure, but so far we find it to be well-designed and capable of outstanding results. The conversion of these low-cost lenses means S35 and almost-full frame anamorphic shooting no longer needs to cost quite so much money. I reckon it is poor quality optics on RX1R II as that is what is different. I yearn for a camera that I can operate with minimal effort, so I can focus my attention instead on my subject. The comparison made here is maybe more interesting: https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/rx1r-ii-review/8. It weighs less than 500 grams and is built like a tank, the lens is gorgeous, it has every function and mode of an A7R ii bar the interchangeable lenses, but that is also its appeal. And the ability to crop is fab. So why use 42 megapixels sensor if the camera due to poor quality optics will never be able to use them?!! You make a good point. I personally find touch screens annoying, a joy stick control maybe, but that also might get in the way. So while this doesn't hamper the accuracy of the excellent 399-point PDAF system from the a7R II, it does hamper outright speed compared to some of the faster focusing FE-mount lenses in Sony's lineup. Or you may just be trolling i guess that could be a third option.Would you agree in this day and age people are more likely to bitch about something online than take the time to praise it?So if you go with this premise take a look a B&H for just one example. This lets you compare its resolution capture and its low-light performance. No, controlled lab tests are exactly that.CONTROLLED. And the downsides are less tolerance for camera shake (the original was great for very steady shooting but also good for a more run and gun kind of street shooting that I do a lot of - 42mp is less forgiving for the latter), the heavy overhead for storage space and processing the raw files, and I gotta think all of that resolution and the processing needed to harness it has something to do with the even worse battery life than the original. Bad optics? You better face reality than stay blind. Zooms are great. In such a tiny body you can't have a power supply for 1000 and more shoots like in a EOS - DSLR. What’s the best camera for around $2000? Time to radio in: we're gonna need a bigger card. RX1R II does not resolve what the sensor resolves since none of E-mount lenses do that and RX1R II clearly has worse lens. The point being that Sony do not consider the shutter on the a7R to be good enough to give it a year's warranty, which you'd normally expect. the issue is you can't clean it yourself, you need to bring it to the service center, which they will charge you with a ridicolous amount of money just to clean it. Most people would only have to: 1- be careful if the subject has a movement fast enough to make the problem evident. If, like me, you rarely, if ever take your (Zeiss ZM 35mm f2.0 lens off the a7r in my case), then this camera is Heaven sent. The reason I reckon it is of about 15 megapixels optical resolution is completely unscientific. The RX1R II also includes the world's first variable optical low-pass filter (OLPF) for moiré reduction. Next there's the law of diminishing returns. Also the lenses of smart phones are poor and very limited in focal length. The sensor is the same but optics are not. Agreed. The on-sensor PDAF system with face detection is excellent at accurately and smoothly tracking faces in video capture without hunting, and you can even plug in a microphone (but without a headphone port, you can't monitor it). I don't find the lens + body pricing argument relevant because the focal length is fixed at something that is way too limiting for me. Just reread your comments, carefully. At M$3.3K a FF camera with a crazy 42Mp sensor in a tiny accommodation deserves a bigger body with a good battery and approipriate treatment in order not to have any of those 'Cons'. The new 33mm F1.4 and 56mm F1.4 APS-C lenses are roughly equivalent to 50mm and 85mm lenses, respectively, on full-frame cameras. Marques Brownlee published his third annual 'Blind Smartphone Camera Test' video and the results are surprising. Sigma 35mm F2 DG DN and 65mm F2 DG DN Review, Best Mid-Range Full Frame Mirrorless: Canon R6, Sony a7 III, Nikon Z6 II, Panasonic S5. For example I find the IQ of cell phones unacceptable but my RX100 is acceptable. Read our full review to find out how it performs. In many cases there's no need for change. In this buying guide we've rounded-up several great cameras for travel and recommended the best. Add the economic Sony 28mm f2, an excellent lens which is also very small...Or, if as Ray Sachs suggests, 24 mp is enough, then the A7ii with the 28mm f2; both have IBIS for hand held shooting; or, if you want half frame, the A6000 (now $500) plus the sony 28, even smaller (but no IS with this lens.). It has hard stops, a limited turn radius, a finger tab to approximate a focus distance setting without so much as glancing at the camera or lens, and responds so quickly to user input that you'd swear it was mechanical. Then if you want to use it "one handed" and shoot from the hit it's just not the camera for you (ricoh sure, or your basic Iphone). 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